It's obvious it wasn't silk because you could understand what the conversation was about

just ban both of em, balance things out

http://i.imgur.com/qrosN.jpg

Fzero:

I know it's already been said repeatedly, but that wasn't |mdk|silk (the demo and team leader of murder death kill). The real one was silk271, the lobby leader, as far as I can tell. I have him on my friends' list and checking aliases does NOT show the one used last night. If he's ever used it, it was long enough ago that it's fallen off my list:

Also, I played on his team for several months, and that's just not how he behaves. If anything, he has a habit of being TOO nice to people.

white wrote:

people dont really look at firefighters, EMTs, soldiers, etc. as heroes

This made me gulp (if not literally it might as well have been because I still feel the need to every time I re-read it). I don't think anyone doubts the validity of firefighters' heroics, in 9/11 or any other day of their lives. I don't know how kids are today, but growing up that was one of the most desired "when I grow up"s. These days I'm not sure I could or would want to be one because of the danger you face and the strength required. I know I wouldn't want to marry/date one because I don't want to live life wondering whether my favorite person in the universe is coming home. I'm so sorry if what I just said strikes a bad cord. I just mean that--if there's a part of society that doesn't value that profession--I've never seen it.

I also kinda wanted to mention the topic of insensitive jokes in general. I think a lot of people actually emotionally remove themselves from what the joke is about, or are trying to make light of the situation, you know? "If you don't laugh, you'll cry," y'know? I'd venture to guess you yourself may even make jokes that, coming from someone else or when you're in the wrong mood, you'd consider VERY inappropriate? I know I don't know you, but I do know that there are things I'm sensitive about and I often steel/harden myself against the topic and even make jokes...but no, of course I don't know whether that directly relates.

I know you said you were through with this topic, so I'll shut it now. Guess I just always gotta put my 2-cents in :/

The internet was never made to be this serious.

It was never made for people to be anonymous dickwads either.

I am sorry about your loss F-zero, anyone ever joking about that shit is an ignorant motherfucker who needs to be put in their place. Firefighters, law enforcements, military, etc. We get paid like fucking shit and we do SO MUCH more than what it's asked from us and yet there are many idiots out there that question our integrity and just say it's our fucking job to put our life on the line like we are disposable objects. I have gotten called a baby killer, murderer, paper pusher, puppet, or w/e several times by liberal hippie douchebags, anti-war college morons who think their opinions matter, old ladies/men, and just too many other kinds of people to make a list of. I have gone into a few scary situations and I am constantly training in emergency response to reduce my already high chances of dying to allow the rest of you to say whatever the fuck you want and live in peace.

As for mustard, I know you have a dark sense of humor dude and that's all cool and whatnot, but my cousin's husband (which I am good buds with)has PTSD. I also know several others who have it and it's not pretty at all because it's not something you can't just get rid off by going to a psychiatrist for a few weeks but rather a few years or you could never recover from it. I hope you don't take this the wrong way as me being angry but you should of expected someone to reply back to that awful joke.

I understand now that it was not Silk, and I have no ill feelings toward him what so ever. Thank you for setting the record straight everyone, it would not be right for me to be mad about something that was not even the correct person.

Silk, I am sorry for thinking it was you and it's unfortunate that I can't change topic headers or delete threads or I would.

You know, I have went back and forth on if I should explain why it still upsets me years later, and it goes further then her death. So here is the quick version on why it strikes a cord, other than the obvious.

About 5 years before 9-11, my parents got a divorce. I chose to stay with my Father in Ohio b/c I blamed her. I saw her very little over the next 2 years that she stayed in Ohio. I then found out that she took a job in NYC and was moving in the next month or so. By then I was no longer upset with her, so we just said goodbye thinking that I was going to visit her. I never actually made it to go see her over the next two years of her life before she died

Anyways, if we could, lets stop posting in this thread please

Thanks,

Fzero wrote:

I understand now that it was not Silk, and I have no ill feelings toward him what so ever. Thank you for setting the record straight everyone, it would not be right for me to be mad about something that was not even the correct person.

Silk, I am sorry for thinking it was you and it's unfortunate that I can't change topic headers or delete threads or I would.

You know, I have went back and forth on if I should explain why it still upsets me years later, and it goes further then her death. So here is the quick version on why it strikes a cord, other than the obvious.

About 5 years before 9-11, my parents got a divorce. I chose to stay with my Father in Ohio b/c I blamed her. I saw her very little over the next 2 years that she stayed in Ohio. I then found out that she took a job in NYC and was moving in the next month or so. By then I was no longer upset with her, so we just said goodbye thinking that I was going to visit her. I never actually made it to go see her over the next two years of her life before she died

Anyways, if we could, lets stop posting in this thread please

Thanks,

I know that you want us to stop posting but, I'm really sorry for your loss. I've never lost anybody close to me so I don't know how it feels but I still feel really sorry. There is no emoticon that you can take seriously enough for me to post.

sacrilege wrote:

isn't black dynamite that guy who gets really really angry when you call him a nigger. Pretty funny then, hiding behind the name of some guy hated on natf2 to troll poeple. dumb nigger

Just wondering if people actually call people "niggers" outside of the internet. I'm inquiring because I would like to become a secret agent keyboard warrior.

Also wondering if your parents/friends know of your secret lifestyle.

???

-frag and move on

I agree with Black Dynamite on Fzero putting his personal life into a public chat, so it's his own fault, but Black Dynamite should know that some things are just too far whether it's a joke or not. You're both at fault.

#75 shortened version

"It's all your fault. I'm a reasonable and level-headed guy but I've been the victim of hate crimes in this community since day one. I only said these things because everyone is a dickhead."

Black Dynamite wrote:

To set the record straight. This started because of you. So if you are so sensitive maybe you should watch how you act towards people. You knew I was not the real silk because people on the server were saying it. People on your team were saying it. Then silk comes to the server and kicks me for using his name on his server. Then it was discussed in lobby chat, even by silk himself. Then another lobby gets started on that same server I join and we go in game, this time you are on my team. I asked Industrial why he kicked me and he started laughing and saying that the real silk was mad I had his name and that silk kicked me. I say well damn I was making him look good, why would he want to kick me? To which you responded "Because you are black, that's why he kicked you" then I said "Well maybe it was because I fucked your mother." Then you say some shit like "No offense but are you mexican, just wondering?" Like being mexican is something to be offended by. This is how it all got started when you carried this conversation over into lobby chat after the real silk kicks me again. I have experienced nothing but racism and bigotry from this community from day one. Which is fine by me, I think people have the right to be racist or whatever but there are two sides to that coin. So when you say shit like that, which I have heard a thousand times, I can only assume you are some ignorant racist trying to troll me again. Then you started airing your personal shit in a public chat, so I assumed you were lying and trying to continue your troll so I trolled you back. If your mom did indeed die during 9/11 then you have my sympathies. What was her name?

WOW, WTF

Let me start with proving a few things that are very incorrect:

1)"Because you are black, that's why he kicked you" Someone said "why was he/me kicked" (Not sure who it was that asked) I responded with He thought that silk was using multiple steam accounts, so he kicked the one that was in spec, thinking he was using two accounts. After this, I someone asked why was he kicked? To which I explained that he thought silk was using two accounts, so he kicked the wrong one.

2) "No offense but are you mexican, just wondering?" Yes, I said this, and literally asked you if you were Mexican from your accent. This would better explain how you could mock those that were killed during 9-11.

I will finish this later, I have to ring...and I will fix the grammatical and errors from typing quickly

Impostor Silk was simply kicked because Real Silk wanted to make a lobby and found out I made the lobby with our server already, and saw "Silk216" and kicked him.

Who the fuck just changes their name to silk and says they aren't starting shit? Just play the goddamn game.

Fzero wrote:

Anyways, if we could, lets stop posting in this thread please

Consider it done.