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omar little wrote:


no offense but hes just an average high level scout and if hes banned in brazil youre probably all mid- lmao

We got lots of good snipers :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CBH0lDrA1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7cTSukcIiU&feature=player_embedded
for example; and no one thinks these guys cheats :|

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 09:58pm
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"hating me wont make you better at videogames" - Matt "vhalin" Bearslayer

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 09:58pm
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eXtine  Steam
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my input. Plat already dropped some knowledge about it.

If I'm a noob on the topic and this is clearly not suspicious, I'm glad I brought it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LBla4KMhMw

Still what should be done with any hackusation


Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 09:59pm
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who hated u ?u were pretty cool imo and there was some other good scouts with your same level and no one tink they cheated

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:01pm
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extine, powah was banned a while ago. Why are you just now trying to get involved? Also, the clip you pointed out is a very common method of aiming. Tons of players flick their mouse for maximum damage, then back down and flick again. I can point out a couple times in mge where I've done this against soldiers.

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:13pm
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the video is pretty good extine
actually its pretty idiot from both parts (including me) to talk like if he were or not a cheater ,because you cant say that it isnt fucking suspicious ,but also you cant be 100% sure that he cheated
its a 50/50 ,the brazilian staff thought was suspicious enought and they banned him
so can we just stop talking about him ?
btw its nice to see my team being raped

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:14pm
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brazil vs arg isnt today extine ,its the next

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:16pm
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Platinum wrote:

Clearly you're the "fuking newb n dumbass". Come merda, viado.

"Hombres, let's ban everyone who's better than me so I can be THE BEST!!!" - dem0

congratz to confirm what i said

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:20pm
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Platinum wrote:

Clearly you're the "fuking newb n dumbass". Come merda, viado.

"Hombres, let's ban everyone who's better than me so I can be THE BEST!!!" - dem0


flay has a very similar way to play/aim ,and dem0 thought he didnt cheated (even when he was banned) so he let flay play the gamingcon(another league where dem0 was admin)

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:25pm
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#97 - Getting involved now because of this thread, and the fact that there is still a lot of suspicion around powah.

That is still the most suspicious clip I've seen from any hackusation thrown my way, but then again, I'm learning something new everyday. I haven't pulled up other scouts clips and done the same and seen how the shotty aim is. So maybe my suspicions were completely unfounded.

I think it's a very important topic. Marissa getting banned in UGC is very similar to any "case" against powah. I made that video now, because I didn't 6 months ago. *shrug*

Next sunday venom?


Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:26pm
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yes ,actually i already said it on the first post ,but now that i see it ,its easy to missunderstand the hour with the day (u probably thought was today at 22 hs of br and 21-22 est or something like that)
my bad

Last edited: Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:56pm by Venom_

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:29pm
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css > tf2

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:35pm
#103
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9 pm - 10 pm est sunday 22
i didnt know u guys use 10pm instead of 22 ,lol
thanks flay

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:42pm
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Oh, yeah, right, the pro x pub today is gonna be at 8h30min pm local time, 6h30min pm EST

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 10:48pm
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screwed wrote:

Oh, my god, why do I insist on answering? lol
I only translated the thread, didn't say it was everything I thought nor my whole oppinion. I, despite all suspicious stuff, KNOW FOR SURE that he used to cheat on public servers with his friends and that wasn't a troll.

#70
What's most relevant in the second video is what happens here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_z4T__1No#t=55 we made a bunch of testing and concluded that it was impossible to see or listen to the scout there, the blu scout couldn't see him neither and, even if he could, considering the lag you get from Brazil, it would be impossible for him to warn him.

#74
Of-fkin-course, what >was written in the thread< meant that if the person, for example, does a lot of flick shots, he/she doesn't simply track down the enemy half of the times and the other half are flick shots.

Link the demo instead so we can hear for ourselves!


xen. blinK

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 11:20pm
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STV for the pro x pub: 177.71.178.130:27020

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 11:22pm
#107
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blinky wrote:

screwed wrote:

Oh, my god, why do I insist on answering? lol
I only translated the thread, didn't say it was everything I thought nor my whole oppinion. I, despite all suspicious stuff, KNOW FOR SURE that he used to cheat on public servers with his friends and that wasn't a troll.

#70
What's most relevant in the second video is what happens here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_z4T__1No#t=55 we made a bunch of testing and concluded that it was impossible to see or listen to the scout there, the blu scout couldn't see him neither and, even if he could, considering the lag you get from Brazil, it would be impossible for him to warn him.

#74
Of-fkin-course, what >was written in the thread< meant that if the person, for example, does a lot of flick shots, he/she doesn't simply track down the enemy half of the times and the other half are flick shots.

Link the demo instead so we can hear for ourselves!


already posted ,look at screwed´s posts

Sun, 15 Apr 2012, 11:39pm
#108
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brazilians move in, post quality plummets

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 12:11am
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http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=jiolGBsKPWg&s=238&e=241


Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 12:19am
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Ggglygy wrote:

http://www.youtuberepeater.com/watch?v=jiolGBsKPWg&s=238&e=241

how much for one of these

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 12:24am
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THIS IS 263 REAL

SPOILER


Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 12:32am
#112
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stringer bell  Steam
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eXtine I'm not sure if your sideburns are even atm.

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 12:51am
#113
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eXtine  Steam
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my left burns puff out more than my right :/


Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 01:26am
#114
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stringer bell  Steam
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still looks fly

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 01:40am
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The only possible way to solve this is watching powah on lan..Since it will never happen in Brazil, i hope his american friends invite him to play with his loved brazillian friend, rather on ESEA lan or any big event...I would appreciate to see this in my current life xD
About your video extine, if you suspects of aimbot, you should know how do they work. Ask your self if its possible with/without aimbot and try to do it on your own. I don't know if they works like powah's aim on this video, but i'm sure that if you get some kinds of aimbots (i believe that not all of them work the same way) and with any of them you can't aim like powah, you will have more conclusive results. Test them (with a f2p/different account for christ sakes), and show us the results.

It would be great to have an extv stream of the event (br x ar), so I hope extine has anything he needs to get it done :D

Last edited: Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 05:05am by eiz0-

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 04:48am
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double

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 05:04am
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I'm also banned on brazil for pub hacking, anyway im competitive in highlevel without hack and know the scenario.
I know alot and ALOT of cheating, powah uses 2 differently ways of attacking... 1 with sniper and 1 with scout, with sniper he scans triggerbot with a key for be legit and prolly the triggerbot spread..a good one.
with scout some videos showed some smooth aim with center of the body as aim_bone with all legit feature possible but still noticiable sometimes.

And too many suspecious wallhack scenes. (but i believe hes good to not use wallhack at least.)

Flay is different, and also very good in css in high level games. I can just say powah is a hacker.

important: brazilians is not full of hackers, we have like 5-6 hackers i know by name.. some banned forever like me ;)

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 11:48am
#118
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terrible hackusation videos

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 04:31pm
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rakzbr wrote:

I'm also banned on brazil for pub hacking, anyway im competitive in highlevel without hack and know the scenario.
I know alot and ALOT of cheating, powah uses 2 differently ways of attacking... 1 with sniper and 1 with scout, with sniper he scans triggerbot with a key for be legit and prolly the triggerbot spread..a good one.
with scout some videos showed some smooth aim with center of the body as aim_bone with all legit feature possible but still noticiable sometimes.

And too many suspecious wallhack scenes. (but i believe hes good to not use wallhack at least.)

Flay is different, and also very good in css in high level games. I can just say powah is a hacker.

important: brazilians is not full of hackers, we have like 5-6 hackers i know by name.. some banned forever like me ;)

jausjusaasuh liked

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 04:43pm
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blinky  Steam
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The problem with cheating is that people can create their own megahacks nowadays and make them so advanced that it's near impossible to catch unless you watch them play at a LAN or something. Also make them completely undetectable by anticheat programs.. NATF2 doesn't take a strong enough stance vs cheaters so more and more people will continue to experiment with them. I'm sure there's plenty of high level players cheating in some way it's just impossible to catch. Hoegie playing in ESEA is the biggest joke and says it all.


xen. blinK

Mon, 16 Apr 2012, 04:49pm