Aside from needing ESEA to break their rules regarding unlocks (whether or not to allow the Escape Plan), there's really nothing wrong with the update. If the league can't adapt to that simple change, I don't think you can blame valve.

lol? sponsors don't give two fucks about what the game actually is. All they care about is if teams stay together (they dont) and if there are enough viewers (there aren't)

Breloom is right. Sponsors aren't ignoring us because of unlocks; they don't give a fuck. Teams never stay together and NA comp is small, that's the problem.

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21800/page-12/#post-392495

My final post on this matter. That was a lot of effort.

yookstah wrote:

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21800/page-12/#post-392495

My final post on this matter. That was a lot of effort.

do you and yukari rehearse this stuff?

thrickstr wrote:

Notice how the soldiers that defended the equalizer as a weapon that was not op are very quiet now; where is the outrage?
But the ones who never said anything while we tried to make things fair for everybody are finally talking and agreeing with the nerf now.

I think everyone was in agreement that the damage was unneeded, I just liked to point out how stupid scouts were for complaining about it since they have nothing to fear from it and it's been proven continuously to have very little impact on fragging.

Everyone wanted the damage nerfed thrickstr; they just thought it brought more positives than negatives.

By the way, I know I used to be on the opposite side of this war but can we PLEASE ban gunboats next season. Soldiers double jumping into the skybox and spamming 4 rockets down... there is pretty much no counter to that.

Also soldiers just constantly rocket jumping around just as a distraction is pretty lame to and looks silly.
-Thanks

best thing to ever happen to this game

gunboats are here to stay for realzzz

and jumping around as a distraction is hilarious too

Juunee wrote:

I think everyone was in agreement that the damage was unneeded

kermit wrote:

Everyone wanted the damage nerfed thrickstr

Very few people went as far as admitting this on the threads. It doesn't really matter though. I think everybody is happy with the changes.

kermit wrote:

Soldiers double jumping into the skybox and spamming 4 rockets down

2 rockets

By the time they hit the sky box.. you know the one really high in the air... they can reload 2 more..then maybe load 2 more when they hit the ground.. because they won't be taking any damage from the skybox.

yookstah wrote:

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21800/page-12/#post-392495

My final post on this matter. That was a lot of effort.

that monkeh guy seems pretty retarded and/or close minded

yookstah wrote:

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21800/page-12/#post-392495

My final post on this matter. That was a lot of effort.

kermit wrote:

By the time they hit the sky box.. you know the one really high in the air... they can reload 2 more

thrickstr wrote:

Notice how the soldiers that defended the equalizer as a weapon that was not op are very quiet now; where is the outrage?
But the ones who never said anything while we tried to make things fair for everybody are finally talking and agreeing with the nerf now.

Actually, A great many soldiers (myself included) argued that the equalizer damage was almost completely irrelevant and stated that they would not care if the damage was reduced or even removed completely so long as they were able to keep the equalizer speed. If anything, we've proven ourselves consistent in not complaining.

I do find it a bit silly that the damage equalizer is a completely worthless unlock though.

raped kermit

So how is the Escape Plan acquired? Is it given at the same time as the Equalizer or is it just dropped?

technosex wrote:

kermit wrote:

By the time they hit the sky box.. you know the one really high in the air... they can reload 2 more

Good shit. Edit: I am actually retarded, but blame it on this http://www.cheebachews.com/.

Also hooky: The escape plan is now a random drop just like any other non-achievement weapon. The soldier achievement milestone now grants you the new "Equalizer" (damage not speed). If you had an equalizer pre-update, you should ALSO get an escape plan as soon as you load up the game (assuming item servers are online). This escape plan drop will mirror your old equalizer. e.g. Vintage Equalizer? Keep it, and get a vintage escape plan in a drop. Strange Equalizer? Keep it (the new equalizer retains kills) and get a strange escape plan in a drop (unfortunately with no kills). I believe crates that had a chance to give a strange equalizer now have half of that chance to getting the new equalizer and half to getting an escape plan.

For every EQ you had, you get an EP.

ps techno wins

SneakyPolarBear wrote:

Is it bad that I had literally no idea that was possible? Do you stick in the skybox as long as you want until you shoot? Oh god the possibilities are endless.

badmanner wrote:

For every EQ you had, you get an EP.

ps techno wins

yws wrote:

yookstah wrote:

http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21800/page-12/#post-392495

My final post on this matter. That was a lot of effort.

do you and yukari rehearse this stuff?

He doesn't really make walls of text - that's my job. When I get into writing something like that, I can't really stop myself from writing a few thousand words :/

And I usually only make posts like that between 3-6am